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Explora 2 and SD decoder as xtra view

Hi

I have a SD Dualview with Twin LNB currently feeding the SD decoder.

Have got a new Explora 2 which I need to install as Primary Decoder. While also connecting the SD.

What is the best way to get these connected. If I use a multiswitch can the heartbeat from the Explora be used through multiswitch with Diplexor to the SD's RF port?

From what I understand if I used  a smart LNB instead the SD would use the Universal ports, but these cant access the heartbeat from the unicable ports which the Explora would be conencted on. So what is best option?

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Re: Explora 2 and SD decoder as xtra view

Hi

DSD820 Dualview

HD Model 5S

So Yes they cannot be used together. I have ditched the HD 5S and just left the Dualview and connected a new tv on TV1.

 

Thanks all

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How to connect Explora 2 to SD decoder

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Re: How to connect Explora 2 to SD decoder

Which country are you in? As far as we know there's no SD PVR decoders that can work properly anymore due to MC's changes to the system.

 

Other than that - you're quite confused, seen in much of what you've posted. Suggest you get a recommended-by-a-friend installer, or someone who's had some experience to help.

 

I won't be available further.

Not sure if anyone else may choose to post, all the best with it.

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Re: How to connect Explora 2 to SD decoder

@boxter 

You cannot use a Diplexer for the SDPVR because it does not support SatCR.

A separate heartbeat cable must be connected from the RF port on the Explora to the RF Port on the SDPVR.

 

The Twin LNB will not work for the Explora because you will not get a lot of the channels which are on the high band frequencies.

The current Smart LNB has only 1 Universal port so it cannot be used for this combo.

Because the SDPVR does not support SatCR, the customer will need to use a “Quad LNB + Smart Switch”.

 

Explora 2 + SD PVR Estimated Costs:

  • Quad LNB … R400
  • Smart Switch … R800
  • Labour … depends on the installer … the installation will require a lot of cables

 

The other option is to buy 2 x Explora’s to replace the SDPVR:

  • Explora 2 Installed R1700
  • Explora 2 (no installation) R1000
  • All decoders will be connected with a single SatCR cable.
  • No heartbeat cable is required.
  • All 3 x TV’s will display in HD
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Re: How to connect Explora 2 to SD decoder

I better just add that only one of the SD PVR's RF ports can work with the heartbeat, I think it was RF Out.

 

But maybe you meant the actual "DualView" decoder (does not have a harddrive so can't record) - that doesn't work with XtraView (XV) at all.

If so there is no modern substitute, you would need to consider two more modern decoders to also get the third viewing environment if wanted.

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@Cya_DStv1 wrote:

You cannot use a Diplexer for the SDPVR because it does not support SatCR.

A separate heartbeat cable must be connected from the RF port on the Explora to the RF Port on the SDPVR.


The info you've been given is incorrect.

A diplexer can be used to make any XV-capable older decoder that doesn't use unicable then also use the smart LNB or Smart Switch for the heartbeat.

However it's best to use your conventional RF port suggestion, especially in a case like this. Unless there's a problem with conduit space between the rooms etc.

 

EDIT: It's an extreme use - requiring both a unicable feed and universal feed(s). Not for the faint hearted ;-)

 

Please ask your source to always check with David in the Field Services dept. if possible.

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Re: Explora 2 and SD decoder as xtra view

Plenty of confusing advice given so far, mainly because of confusion about what SD decoder you have. So in summary, assuming you are in SA:

1. IF the decoder is the older dual view decoder, it cannot be combined in an Xtraview combination.

2. Assuming you have the SD PVR:

It can be combined with an Explora as the primary, BUT there are limitations.

It will require eitther a QUAD LNB plus a 24-1Z Smart Switch, OR, a SLNB model LMX 500 as this is the only SLNB with 2 Universal ports.

Next, while it is theoretically possible to feed the SD PVR with HB via the SLNB, it makes no sense because you will then need 3 cables from the SLNB or from the 24-1Z . 

The best will be to then simply run the HB cable from the Explora to the SD PVR direct, from the RF ports. The choice if RF IN or out depends on your existing RF distribution setup.

So, to be of more help, we need more info about which decoder it is and what the RF distribution is that you have in place at the moment as well as where you intend placing the Explora decoder. In the same room as the SD PVR or in another room.

 

 

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@GeoffD wrote:

Next, while it is theoretically possible to feed the SD PVR with HB via the SLNB, it makes no sense because you will then need 3 cables from the SLNB or from the 24-1Z .


Agreed, it would be for a particular extreme only such as a weak HB due to a very long distance between the decoders' rooms with the dish somewhere in the middle, and no boosted RF distribution being planned between them.

There was one somewhat related case on the old forum, although we didn't get enough answers re the details so the weak HB issue wasn't clear.

 

But as Geoff says, it remains theory as it's untried and one technical factor could make things too impractical.

 

Anyway, probably as I suggested Boxter - especially not in a case like this.

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Re: Explora 2 and SD decoder as xtra view

Hi Thanks for all the answers....

For info....

Its a SD decoder no hard disk and yes in RSA.

It currently has dualview supplies two viewing environments. The new Explora 2 has NO RF ports. Both will be installed in the same room.

Currently the SD decoder works fine. Problem is main TV just blown and so wanted to use old Plasma monitor which has a HDMI Fury box converting to RGB to this monitor(as only RGB inputs of monitor work)

Cost an issue as its for pensioner.( Mother-inlaw)

So SD decoder wont work with this Plasma monitor, as we have a Explora 2 on standby, I thought I could connect it up to supply HDMI to the plasma and wanted to keep the old SD decoder to supply via RF to second bedroom.

Therefore I thought I could try the smart LNB which does have 2 universal ports to SD. Have one uni to Explora 2

But how do I get the RF heartbeat from the explora 2 AS you KNOW its has NO RF OUT. It has to be taken out of the Explora 2 unicable...

Can I use the diplexor right at the explora 2 and feed this to SD's RF port.??

Other option is to buy a cheap new TV and keep all on SD, but thought lnb or switch would be cheapest option. Also dish just outside window, so should not be a problem with number of cables from dish.

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Re: Explora 2 and SD decoder as xtra view

This post is even more confusing than your previous post.

Please give us the actual decoder model numbers.

The Explora 2A has RF ports! It is the single view HD decoder series 5, that has no RF ports. Model numbers 5S and 5U. These decoders are NOT PVRs.

Please state which SLNB  you have? Is it the one with 4 unicable ports plus 2 universal ports (LMX 500) or the one with 3 unicable ports and 1 universal port (LMX 501).

To reiterate, the older SD dual view decoder IS NOT XV CAPABLE and has never been XV capable.

Note also, because you have more than one TV does NOT mean it is a dual view decoder that is in use. Dual view means 2 totally independent viewing environments, which requires 2 universal ports on an LNB to work properly.

If you don't already have a SLNB, THEN note that the only one now available is the SLNB LMX 501, which only has 1 universal port, which means it is not suitable for use with the older dual view decoder.

 

 

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