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Explora 2 and SD decoder as xtra view

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Re: Explora 2 and SD decoder as xtra view

Hi

DSD820 Dualview

HD Model 5S

So Yes they cannot be used together. I have ditched the HD 5S and just left the Dualview and connected a new tv on TV1.

 

Thanks all

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Red Carpet

Re: Explora 2 and SD decoder as xtra view

That makes more sense! 

When you are ready to replace the dual view , it will be the right time to install a new LNB. 

As soon as you confirm which decoder you have, we will be able to advise as to what your further options are.

Octo LNB; 2 by 2x4 MS; 2 by ES 5-2; Dedicated PSU for LNB, ES's, MS's; HD PVR 4P x 2; Explora 1; DSD 660; FSM
Red Carpet

Re: Explora 2 and SD decoder as xtra view

There is no Explora sold in South Africa without a RF port - take a photo and post it.

 

As far as I am aware, the one new model of the HD Decoder is the only one with no RF port. It is not an Explora though - even if it almost looks like one - it is just smaller. The Explora has a hard drive which the HD decoder doesn't.

 

Octo-LNB to 24-1z/5.2 switches. Explora1 (Prim) & HDPVR 2P (Sec), Samsung 55" UA55F8500 Smart 3D LED TV, HDMI picture & audio via Onkyo TX-NR626
receiver. Explora 2 in bedroom, HDMI picture & audio to Samsung 32" UA32F5500 Smart LED TV. 100Mbps M-Web fibre (OpenServe).
Anime

Re: Explora 2 and SD decoder as xtra view

Sorry, I will check the model numbers. But

The Explora that I have has no RF port only HDMI for sure I saw this when trying to set it up last week.

The SD decoder had two different TV's running, showing two totally different channels. Each one has its own remote which does not affect each other. ie two independant stations at once. Before the main tv hit by lightning.

The gist is this SD decoder will probably not be able to receive a HB from what you are saying as it is too old and does not have this function.

So I think I will just get a new TV and forget about using the Explora, will stick with SD decoder.

SD is using two cables from twin LNB.

When SD eventually stops working will then use the explora( Multichoice conned mother in law to buy Explora  as a spare, when she took the SD decoder in for testing, which they said was fine. Found the TV to be dead)

 

Thanks all

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Re: Explora 2 and SD decoder as xtra view

I stopped reading your post, you're not listening to anything we've said.

 

For starters;

A Dualview will never work with any other decoder with XtraView.

There is no Explora 2 without RF ports.

Your concepts need to take a back seat while you first examine the decoders you have, and actually need. Again I suggest you contact professionals, I'm completely done here - all the best.

Red Carpet

Re: Explora 2 and SD decoder as xtra view

This post is even more confusing than your previous post.

Please give us the actual decoder model numbers.

The Explora 2A has RF ports! It is the single view HD decoder series 5, that has no RF ports. Model numbers 5S and 5U. These decoders are NOT PVRs.

Please state which SLNB  you have? Is it the one with 4 unicable ports plus 2 universal ports (LMX 500) or the one with 3 unicable ports and 1 universal port (LMX 501).

To reiterate, the older SD dual view decoder IS NOT XV CAPABLE and has never been XV capable.

Note also, because you have more than one TV does NOT mean it is a dual view decoder that is in use. Dual view means 2 totally independent viewing environments, which requires 2 universal ports on an LNB to work properly.

If you don't already have a SLNB, THEN note that the only one now available is the SLNB LMX 501, which only has 1 universal port, which means it is not suitable for use with the older dual view decoder.

 

 

Octo LNB; 2 by 2x4 MS; 2 by ES 5-2; Dedicated PSU for LNB, ES's, MS's; HD PVR 4P x 2; Explora 1; DSD 660; FSM
Anime

Re: Explora 2 and SD decoder as xtra view

Hi Thanks for all the answers....

For info....

Its a SD decoder no hard disk and yes in RSA.

It currently has dualview supplies two viewing environments. The new Explora 2 has NO RF ports. Both will be installed in the same room.

Currently the SD decoder works fine. Problem is main TV just blown and so wanted to use old Plasma monitor which has a HDMI Fury box converting to RGB to this monitor(as only RGB inputs of monitor work)

Cost an issue as its for pensioner.( Mother-inlaw)

So SD decoder wont work with this Plasma monitor, as we have a Explora 2 on standby, I thought I could connect it up to supply HDMI to the plasma and wanted to keep the old SD decoder to supply via RF to second bedroom.

Therefore I thought I could try the smart LNB which does have 2 universal ports to SD. Have one uni to Explora 2

But how do I get the RF heartbeat from the explora 2 AS you KNOW its has NO RF OUT. It has to be taken out of the Explora 2 unicable...

Can I use the diplexor right at the explora 2 and feed this to SD's RF port.??

Other option is to buy a cheap new TV and keep all on SD, but thought lnb or switch would be cheapest option. Also dish just outside window, so should not be a problem with number of cables from dish.

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Re: Explora 2 and SD decoder as xtra view


@GeoffD wrote:

Next, while it is theoretically possible to feed the SD PVR with HB via the SLNB, it makes no sense because you will then need 3 cables from the SLNB or from the 24-1Z .


Agreed, it would be for a particular extreme only such as a weak HB due to a very long distance between the decoders' rooms with the dish somewhere in the middle, and no boosted RF distribution being planned between them.

There was one somewhat related case on the old forum, although we didn't get enough answers re the details so the weak HB issue wasn't clear.

 

But as Geoff says, it remains theory as it's untried and one technical factor could make things too impractical.

 

Anyway, probably as I suggested Boxter - especially not in a case like this.

Red Carpet

Re: Explora 2 and SD decoder as xtra view

Plenty of confusing advice given so far, mainly because of confusion about what SD decoder you have. So in summary, assuming you are in SA:

1. IF the decoder is the older dual view decoder, it cannot be combined in an Xtraview combination.

2. Assuming you have the SD PVR:

It can be combined with an Explora as the primary, BUT there are limitations.

It will require eitther a QUAD LNB plus a 24-1Z Smart Switch, OR, a SLNB model LMX 500 as this is the only SLNB with 2 Universal ports.

Next, while it is theoretically possible to feed the SD PVR with HB via the SLNB, it makes no sense because you will then need 3 cables from the SLNB or from the 24-1Z . 

The best will be to then simply run the HB cable from the Explora to the SD PVR direct, from the RF ports. The choice if RF IN or out depends on your existing RF distribution setup.

So, to be of more help, we need more info about which decoder it is and what the RF distribution is that you have in place at the moment as well as where you intend placing the Explora decoder. In the same room as the SD PVR or in another room.

 

 

Octo LNB; 2 by 2x4 MS; 2 by ES 5-2; Dedicated PSU for LNB, ES's, MS's; HD PVR 4P x 2; Explora 1; DSD 660; FSM
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Re: How to connect Explora 2 to SD decoder


@Cya_DStv1 wrote:

You cannot use a Diplexer for the SDPVR because it does not support SatCR.

A separate heartbeat cable must be connected from the RF port on the Explora to the RF Port on the SDPVR.


The info you've been given is incorrect.

A diplexer can be used to make any XV-capable older decoder that doesn't use unicable then also use the smart LNB or Smart Switch for the heartbeat.

However it's best to use your conventional RF port suggestion, especially in a case like this. Unless there's a problem with conduit space between the rooms etc.

 

EDIT: It's an extreme use - requiring both a unicable feed and universal feed(s). Not for the faint hearted ;-)

 

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