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Dstv to cut channels

Telenovela

Re: Dstv to cut channels - better news??

Yeah, it's not a perfect outcome but far better than losing all 3 A+E channels. Also looking forward to seeing what the replacements are. Hopefully "Leah Remini: Scientology and the Aftermath" will somehow be screened on Lifetime going forward.
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Showmaxed

Re: Dstv to cut channels - better news??

There's much criticism that could be posted but not sure if there's any point now, so... fairly good outcome IMO, at least all concerned will have learnt from the experience.

 

And hopefully the History channel will continue to improve.

Plus looking forward to seeing what's being added.

Telenovela

Re: Dstv to cut channels - better news??

Ok, Thinus has announced that History and Lifetime will stay - C+I will be replaced with two new channels that will be announced mid-November: from teeveetee.blogspot.com: TVwithThinus can reveal that MultiChoice has made a U-turn after reaching a new channels carriage deal with A+E Networks and will no longer take away the History (DStv 186) and Lifetime (DStv 131) channels from DStv subscribers although the Crime+Investigation Network (DStv 170) will still go dark on Halloween. Negotiation brinkmanship between MultiChoice and A+E Networks led to a breakdown in the relationship between the Randburg-based pay-TV operator and A+E Networks UK that operates a local affiliate office, A+E Networks Africa, after channel carriage negotiations failed when neither companies could settle on the terms and price that MultiChoice had to pay to keep the channels set. Following MultiChoice's shocking announcement that History, Lifetime and C+I would disappear from DStv at the end of October, renegotiations started up again between MultiChoice and A+E Networks although it's still unclear who blinked and made the first overture. Furious DStv subscribers added massive pressure when they started a petition that by Thursday morning had over 8 700 signatures and comments since it started in early-October, while shocked and angry South African production companies making content for the channels were also vocal in their unhappiness about losing channels as platforms that allow them to make shows and earn a living. Disgruntled local producers who were commissioned by A+E to do local shows were upset that their productions - some just-commissioned and some already in post-production - won’t be seen and that they have been kept in the dark about what's going on. South African production companies who spoke privately to TVwithThinus were extremely upset, saying they were kept in the dark that A+E Networks didn’t have a channel renewal when their recent content was announced at A+E Networks Africa’s upfront showcase. Producers said that they have been kept out of the loop about what is going and about what will be happening with their shows - including programming already commissioned, produced and scheduled for November 2019 all the way to February 2020. These shows range from plans to do Don't Tell the Bride SA, to Crime Stories SA (from Clive Morris Productions), Loved Like Crazy (from Nala Media), as well as Your People, Our People (from Pillay Media). Dean Possenniskie, the managing director of A+E Networks for the Europe Middle East and Africa (EMEA) region, spoke at A+E Networks Africa's content showcase upfront on 19 September in Johannesburg and touted the ongoing, increasing production spending going to the creation of local South African programming on its set of channels. Possenniskie described it's channels supplied to MultiChoice as its "core business" and part of a long-standing partnership with DStv, and that A+E Networks had already invested R30 million in creating local content in South Africa in 2019. Trick or treat: Two further channels to be added MultiChoice on Thursday morning told TVwithThinus in response to a media enquiry that both History and Lifetime will now remain on DStv after the signing of a new multi-year contract with A+E Networks but that C+I will still get axed. MultiChoice will also still add the two further replacement channels that it promised to give in the place of the channels that would have been removed. MultiChoice has removed the channel termination notices for both History and Lifetime from its electronic programme guide (EPG) on DStv. Similar to the radio silence of the past 4 weeks when it had no comment, A+E Networks publicists didn't respond to a media enquiry on Thursday about A+E Networks Africa, led by Yusuf Nabee, as general manager, and its latest channel carriage developments. "We're reached an agreement with A+E Networks for terms that we think are acceptable to our DStv subscribers for both History and Lifetime but Crime+Investigation is still ending," Mark Rayner, MultiChoice SA CEO said. "Two further new channels will still be announced before the middle of November as a replacement for C+I from another provider, as well as another factual documentary channel from a new provider. We're just finalising technical launch plans so that we can be clear on a launch date." MultiChoice was asked what the damage has been to both the pay-TV provider, A+E and South Africa's TV industry because of the earlier announcement that A+E Networks' channels are getting axed when negotiations stalled. "Some customers voiced their concerns and the media. The reality is that the two parties just couldn't find each other and expectations were not met on either side. As soon as we realised we can't, we're obligated to give proper notice. We can't just cancel channels at short notice." "As soon as we realised we don't have a deal that triggered our legal obligation to advise our customers of a potential change. I think it's worked out well for everybody that we've come to agreement on those two channels." "We welcome History and Lifetime back and look forward to continuing with those and there's no break in service because they haven't gone down and won't go down."
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Telenovela

Re: Dstv to cut channels - better news??


@Optimist wrote:

I suspect that's where the extra that was being asked for may mostly lie, the group might have got ahead of themselves in planning it. MC may even see it as too competitive in the development market. Pity if that's the case.

 

Or maybe they're still busy with the EPG, or the negotiations.

Is Thinus saying anything new yet?


Not yet, but he is aware of the epg etc...
--==** Explora 1 (Primary) & Explora 2a (Secondary), SLNB**==--
Showmaxed

Re: Dstv to cut channels - better news??

I suspect that's where the extra that was being asked for may mostly lie, the group might have got ahead of themselves in planning it. MC may even see it as too competitive in the development market. Pity if that's the case.

 

Or maybe they're still busy with the EPG, or the negotiations.

Is Thinus saying anything new yet?

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Re: Dstv to cut channels - better news??

Very good and hopeful news; but what of CI? Why cut this and not the others if they were part of the same package deal?

Speaking for myself, I was finding the new local content programs interesting. Surely, cutting local content channels is against what MC is trying to achieve e.g. Trackers; the conversion of VuzuAmp to 1Magic, etc?

 

 

Pace HDPVR 4 tuner, Samsung 65 UHD TV, Samsung J7500 BluRay, Denon X3200W AVR.
Showmaxed

Re: Dstv to cut channels - better news??


@AlexMain wrote:
...as of now up to and including 9 November...

And the older online guide ( guide.dstv.com ) already has schedules up to 13 Nov.

 

BTW, when the previous EPG adjustment that Sankie posted about happened, it was still all well within the period that they were meant to be on air (early October), unlike now when we're right at the end of that. So I'm also starting to get really hopeful.

Telenovela

Re: Dstv to cut channels - better news??

Online guide is also showing schedules for History and Lifetime, as of now up to and including 9 November, but C+I still has the Channel Termination message. Here is seriously hoping!
--==** Explora 1 (Primary) & Explora 2a (Secondary), SLNB**==--
Showmaxed

Re: Dstv to cut channels - better news??

A few weeks before these issues were discovered I mentioned in a thread that History's Ancient Aliens S09 was being aired after all and that we had missed most of it, so were hoping for a repeat soon.

 

Which they're now planning on doing, on a daily basis... S09E01 first repeats on Fri. the 1st of Nov. @  23:50.  That's 10 minutes before the channel is supposed to terminate...

Coincidence?  :-D

(MC Marietjie once told us that channel spies watch behaviour on forums etc. to try gain "reaction-info ammunition" for negotiations.)

Doccie

Re: Dstv to cut channels - better news??

I totally agree Optimist....

 

DSTV should keep the customer informed.....but maybe they don't care about them?