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Explora bandwidth limiting

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BoxOffice

Re: Explora bandwidth limiting

Of course, someone in MC needs to actually understand these things first ......

Agree with you, the debate is as pointless now as it has always been.

Octo LNB; 2 by 2x4 MS; 2 by ES 5-2; Dedicated PSU for LNB, ES's, MS's; HD PVR 4P x 2; Explora 1; DSD 660; FSM
Anime

Re: Explora bandwidth limiting

Hi Luke7777

 

If MC can implement a "Bandwidth Management" on the Explora, that will give them a lot of breathing space for now.
Let's take Netflix as a example... As MC does not stream UHD, at the moment, we can use Nf requirements to demonstrate - MC's SD and HD bitstream might be different.

SD quality - 3.0 Mbps

HD quality - 5.0 Mbps

So in my case, instead of 61.25 Mbps load, setting it to 5.0 Mbsp, instead of one (1) user, they can connect twelve (12) users.

But from experience we know that their firmware is a mess and implementing this will just cause bigger issues.

 

So for now i think this tread can be closed until MC try their hand at Bandwidth Management.

 

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Re: Explora bandwidth limiting


@zodiac69 wrote:

Hi Luke7777

 

I think the "Mother Buffer" is actually on MC side and NOT on the explora side.

MC is unable to cope with high bandwidth demand, not the decoder.

 

If each decoder is utilising the max bandwidth it can get, then MC has no hope in hell of being able to supply that bandwidth, think about it.

 

just imagine what the load on MC bandwidth is when most explora users try to watch their Series / Movie during peak time. That is why the units are buffering, due to a huge lack of bandwidth on MC side.


We know that... look at the catchup posts since April Smiley Happy  That's why we've been fighting with them to sort out their caching servers. 

SLNB LMX501| Explora 2A (Primary 4,5,6) Explora 2A (Secondary 0,1,2) | Xtraview - decoders same room | 3 distributed HDMI endpoints via 2x4 Matrix
and Cat6 | 200/100 Fibre (OpenServe/Afrihost Premium UnCapped) | HD 5S in holiday mode
BoxOffice

Re: Explora bandwidth limiting


@GeoffD wrote:

Yup but the real World caught up with MC.

 


In many areas - not just this. And surpassed them....

 

Octo-LNB to 2 x 5.2 switches. Explora1 (Prim) & HDPVR 2P (Sec), Samsung 55" UA55F8500 Smart 3D LED TV, HDMI picture & audio via Onkyo TX-NR626
receiver. Explora2 in bedroom, HDMI picture & audio to Samsung 32" UA32F5500 Smart LED TV. 100Mbps M-Web fibre (OpenServe).
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BoxOffice

Re: Explora bandwidth limiting

Yup but the real World caught up with MC.  They have found out that MC can't dictate what the World will look like .....

 

Octo LNB; 2 by 2x4 MS; 2 by ES 5-2; Dedicated PSU for LNB, ES's, MS's; HD PVR 4P x 2; Explora 1; DSD 660; FSM
Anime

Re: Explora bandwidth limiting

Hi GeoffD

 

I remember us talking about this on the previous forum.

We also talked that MC have to move from SAT to Internet with IPTV in your own house as it is the way the world is moving and we were shot down and told in no uncertain terms that Internet streaming is NOT MC's business model - SAT is the only way to go.

 

Back in the real world, we are now sitting with this mess.

BoxOffice

Re: Explora bandwidth limiting

All fascinating stuff!

BUT, exactly as I predicted would happen when MC introduced CU+ originally.

The assumption made is that "most" customers would be sucking on a 4 Mbps ADSL connection, and hence would "never" cause buffering on MCs side, and, because they are forever taking sw shortcuts,  Have not implemented any measure to "control" bw usage in the decoders or allowed for customers to limit usage.

Now that many are moving on to fibre, and high capacity connections are increasingly becoming the norm, all MCs chickens are coming home to roost.

 

Octo LNB; 2 by 2x4 MS; 2 by ES 5-2; Dedicated PSU for LNB, ES's, MS's; HD PVR 4P x 2; Explora 1; DSD 660; FSM
Anime

Re: Explora bandwidth limiting

Hi Luke7777

 

I think the "Mother Buffer" is actually on MC side and NOT on the explora side.

MC is unable to cope with high bandwidth demand, not the decoder.

 

If each decoder is utilising the max bandwidth it can get, then MC has no hope in hell of being able to supply that bandwidth, think about it.

 

just imagine what the load on MC bandwidth is when most explora users try to watch their Series / Movie during peak time. That is why the units are buffering, due to a huge lack of bandwidth on MC side.

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Re: Explora bandwidth limiting

Not sure we'll need to ask them that. Although it looks like the problem has been understood, how is it we all have large percentage of availability results with our Explora speedtests, yet nobody else is having a generally noticeable affect on their system when using these Explora services?

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Re: Explora bandwidth limiting

We've been struggling our butts off to get MC to sort out their buffering... no chance in hell we're going to ask them to limit thruput now Smiley Very Happy

SLNB LMX501| Explora 2A (Primary 4,5,6) Explora 2A (Secondary 0,1,2) | Xtraview - decoders same room | 3 distributed HDMI endpoints via 2x4 Matrix
and Cat6 | 200/100 Fibre (OpenServe/Afrihost Premium UnCapped) | HD 5S in holiday mode